Comments on: Showdown Joe’s false reporting taps out to the facts http://civicscene.ca/showdown-joes-false-reporting-taps-out-to-the-facts Just another WordPress weblog Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:13:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: BC blogger seeks attention, lays a smackdown on Showdown | Fighting Words... http://civicscene.ca/showdown-joes-false-reporting-taps-out-to-the-facts/comment-page-1#comment-6732 BC blogger seeks attention, lays a smackdown on Showdown | Fighting Words... Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:50:27 +0000 http://civicscene.ca/?p=3456#comment-6732 [...] to Vancouver. If you want to read something that will remind you of why you hated high school, check it out. That said, I don’t blame Showdown for his responses in the comments section. He was defending [...] [...] to Vancouver. If you want to read something that will remind you of why you hated high school, check it out. That said, I don’t blame Showdown for his responses in the comments section. He was defending [...]

]]> By: Mike Jensen http://civicscene.ca/showdown-joes-false-reporting-taps-out-to-the-facts/comment-page-1#comment-6687 Mike Jensen Thu, 08 Apr 2010 08:20:20 +0000 http://civicscene.ca/?p=3456#comment-6687 Joe: respect earned!! Good job at staying classy in the final rebuttal!! I think the main problem is that fans although want to hear the facts, don't want to hear opinions based one way when the decision goes the other!! I somewhat agree with your perception on sorting what is fact and fiction as a reporter it must be tough..... But in saying that, maybe it is best until you have a solid source pointing you in the right direction instead of taking a gamble and going the wrong way? Maruo: You seem bitter and jealous of what Joe has go find a playground to harass!~! Nick: Jonathan called Joe out based on FACTS.... You did NOTHING but try and claim he was afraid to put his name to his work and when he in fact did in CLEAR view you had NOTHING as far as constructive criticism to back yourself up with!! You STILL don't!! hence the title (TOOL)!! Spencer: I agree there are more tactful ways to get your point across and Jonathan's dislike for Joe was quite evident. But like me everyone is welcomed to their own opinion. Although I didn't see Joe's comments on how he broke into this business as self absorbed or cocky I can easily see how someone could. I am an experienced and avid fan of MMA and even at times I know what a fighter must do to get out of certain positions. I on the other hand even if I did know the likes of Randy Couture or Chuck Liddell would NOT ever say publicly that I could in fact call them up at any given time!! Like I mentioned before I read a lot of Joe's articles even though at times I agree and disagree, he IS doing a good job! But in this job you have to be open to criticism both good and bad and in this instance the followers on this blog would have preferred a wait and see attitude as opposed to the "deal is off" reporting job that was done!! Was Joe wrong?? Maybe not but his first rebuttal was very weak at best! Mike Jensen Joe: respect earned!! Good job at staying classy in the final rebuttal!! I think the main problem is that fans although want to hear the facts, don’t want to hear opinions based one way when the decision goes the other!! I somewhat agree with your perception on sorting what is fact and fiction as a reporter it must be tough….. But in saying that, maybe it is best until you have a solid source pointing you in the right direction instead of taking a gamble and going the wrong way?

Maruo: You seem bitter and jealous of what Joe has go find a playground to harass!~!

Nick: Jonathan called Joe out based on FACTS…. You did NOTHING but try and claim he was afraid to put his name to his work and when he in fact did in CLEAR view you had NOTHING as far as constructive criticism to back yourself up with!! You STILL don’t!! hence the title (TOOL)!!

Spencer: I agree there are more tactful ways to get your point across and Jonathan’s dislike for Joe was quite evident. But like me everyone is welcomed to their own opinion. Although I didn’t see Joe’s comments on how he broke into this business as self absorbed or cocky I can easily see how someone could. I am an experienced and avid fan of MMA and even at times I know what a fighter must do to get out of certain positions. I on the other hand even if I did know the likes of Randy Couture or Chuck Liddell would NOT ever say publicly that I could in fact call them up at any given time!! Like I mentioned before I read a lot of Joe’s articles even though at times I agree and disagree, he IS doing a good job! But in this job you have to be open to criticism both good and bad and in this instance the followers on this blog would have preferred a wait and see attitude as opposed to the “deal is off” reporting job that was done!! Was Joe wrong?? Maybe not but his first rebuttal was very weak at best!

Mike Jensen

]]> By: jesse katz http://civicscene.ca/showdown-joes-false-reporting-taps-out-to-the-facts/comment-page-1#comment-6656 jesse katz Thu, 08 Apr 2010 01:51:15 +0000 http://civicscene.ca/?p=3456#comment-6656 The problem, John, is that the Article reads like a personal attack and not a rebuttal of what you perceive to be poor or even incompetent journalism by Showdown. The focus was not so much on the problems but the person and I thought Showdown responded graciously to what he probably perceived as a personal attack. To tell you the truth, John, I thought your post brought up some interesting points, but the post was a little inappropriate causing us to lose sight of what you were trying to say. Speaking of inappropriate, if it really was Mauro Ranallo who posted above: “I agree with this article. Joe is a hack.”… Wow. (For the record I have made no attempt to verify if Mauro Ranallo was the poster). I’m grateful that Showdown (and many many other MMA journalist and bloggers including www.fightingwords.ca) were incorrect in their final analysis. This means MMA in Vancouver and for Canadian MMA fans that is a major victory. We should be celebrating the legislation of MMA in another Canadian city and put all this behind us. Now can we all use our collective blogs, newspaper columns, tv, and radio shows to get this shit settled in Ontario? Jesse Katz FightingWords.Ca The problem, John, is that the Article reads like a personal attack and not a rebuttal of what you perceive to be poor or even incompetent journalism by Showdown. The focus was not so much on the problems but the person and I thought Showdown responded graciously to what he probably perceived as a personal attack.

To tell you the truth, John, I thought your post brought up some interesting points, but the post was a little inappropriate causing us to lose sight of what you were trying to say. Speaking of inappropriate, if it really was Mauro Ranallo who posted above: “I agree with this article. Joe is a hack.”… Wow. (For the record I have made no attempt to verify if Mauro Ranallo was the poster).

I’m grateful that Showdown (and many many other MMA journalist and bloggers including http://www.fightingwords.ca) were incorrect in their final analysis. This means MMA in Vancouver and for Canadian MMA fans that is a major victory.

We should be celebrating the legislation of MMA in another Canadian city and put all this behind us. Now can we all use our collective blogs, newspaper columns, tv, and radio shows to get this shit settled in Ontario?

Jesse Katz

FightingWords.Ca

]]> By: MauroRanallo http://civicscene.ca/showdown-joes-false-reporting-taps-out-to-the-facts/comment-page-1#comment-6652 MauroRanallo Thu, 08 Apr 2010 01:05:58 +0000 http://civicscene.ca/?p=3456#comment-6652 Also, nice to see that Joe called in his internet posse via Facebook to come defend him! That Mitchywoo guy seems to have a tight grasp on Joe's bean bag too! Usually you see guys jump to defend a girl from online abuse because they think that will somehow translate into them getting laid by said girl in real-life. Based on how Joe dresses, Mitchywoo may be getting lucky! Also, nice to see that Joe called in his internet posse via Facebook to come defend him! That Mitchywoo guy seems to have a tight grasp on Joe’s bean bag too! Usually you see guys jump to defend a girl from online abuse because they think that will somehow translate into them getting laid by said girl in real-life. Based on how Joe dresses, Mitchywoo may be getting lucky!

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